This lecture is a lecture from SIVA university a part of its 4 year curriculum, studied at the 1st year. This lecture is on Marana Karaka Sthan. I will give you exact lecture as it was taught during the SIVA lectures. In this way, I will try to help you out with understanding this topic in a better way, while at the same time I will provide an insight into a SIVA teachings. This lecture will be given in full. Please note that SIVA university does not teach in English, nor for english speaking students. For such purposes, please visit: www.sohamsa.com/dbc
Marana - death
Karaka - significator, boss etc
Sthan – place
• Jatak Parijat gives shlokas about these grahas.
Grahas are considered in a dying avasta in such places
•Whenever any graha or a bhava goes through the process of destruction (neela shakti), an owner of a horoscope will experience suffering
•Why are grahas dying?
Marana sthan grahas indicate bad previous karma which inevitably cause suffering.
•Any graha in Marana Sthan will affect the following:
1. It destroys the intelligence of a bhava. We will be forced to approuch the bhava under the terribly circumstances, as dying.Normally such approach and attiude will lead to suffering.
2. It destroys the bhavas for which a graha is karaka. The luck will vanish in these bhavas. Such pain will come as a consequence of our attachment for that graha.
3. It will damage the bhavas it rules. We will have to bring choices and make decisions in a deadly/terrible circumstances.
These are the main rules which are about to be elaborated.
MARANA STHAN POSITIONS
SURYA IN 12.BHAVA
Surya is the king and is found in the bhava of renunciation. The king is not on the throne, and he has to renounce it. He feels sick and powerless.The problems we talked about will also arise, apart from dangers from fire. However, Surya in this bhava will not affect health as per Bhava Rathnakar rule. The person will embody the power of Vamana Avatar as per the adityas.
ChandraIN 8.BHAVA
Chandra rules prana and longevity and will affect health, harm domestic harmony, mother etc. Longevity may suffer, unless chandra is in own or exalted sign where a person can come out of troubles after turmoils. It will also cause a loss of direction and may cause depression, and dangers from water. Resourses are lost as well, unless shukra conjoins or is placed in 2nd bhava. Others effects as we talked will also manifest.
MANGAL IN 7. BHAVA
As brahmanchaya or in celibate he feels like dying in the bhava of sexual partnership. A person will have at least 3 broken relationships and your partner will be “grabbed” by another as it was the case in Shri Ram chart. Younger brothers or collegues will suffer.A person may waste time on useless activity particularly if Shukra infleunces.
BUDHA IN 4. and 7. BHAVA
Budha is Maran Sthan in 2 bhavas, 4th and 7th. Budha is in Marana sthan for a bhava where mituna rashi is placed. Budha is a child, immature, before puberty as well. He likes to play and dislikes to sit and learn. Therefore, education may suffer and career as well, particularly in Dashamsa chart. Budha hates Chandra, so attitude towards a mother may not be always coordial.
In 7th bhava, budha is marana stan for kanya rashi, where Shukra karaka is neecha.Thus relationship will suffer. Kanya, the pure one hates to abide with sexual partner.
GURU IN MARANA STHAN IN 3rd BHAVA
Guru is a spiritual Guide and he hates to sit in the house of sexual copulation. 3rd house is also the house of astra or the weapons which are used for protection or war. Guru dispise wars and fightings since his weapon is Mala. For Guru Upadesha, this placement is desirable.
SHUKRA IN MARANA STHAN IN 6th BHAVA
Shukra feels bad in a house of enemities, celibacy where Kanya is a natural sign of Kala Purusha. She wants partnership, harmony and cooperation. However, too much enjoyments may lead to a ripu. Therefore, Marana sthan is 6th bhava.
SHANI IN MARANA STHAN IN LAGNA
Shani is in Marana Sthan in Lagna. He has a problem to follow Surya the karaka. Shani is a karaka for physical pain and disease. He rules the dark. Lagna is life and represents health. Shani is further the servent who cannot sit on the throne which is Mesha rashi, royal sign of the Kala Purush.
RAHU IN MARANA STHAN
Rahu is in Marana Sthan in 9th house. Rahu eclipses Surya the karaka for dharma, rules etc. Rahu breaks the rules, and creates his own rules according to a need. It is demon wearing a monk’s robe. Some schools consider Rahu in Marana sthan in 8th and 10th houses, which will be discussed in detail during discussion classes.
KETU IN MARANA STHAN
Ketu is in Marana sthan in 3rd house. Sadhu feels unhappy in the house of fighting and sexual intercourse.Mithuna the natural sign of the 3rd house in Kala Purusha, is one of the dirthiest signs. Some schools consider Ketu in 2nd and 4th as Marana Sthana, which will be discussed during discussion classes.
Three types of damage for MKS effects
1. Damage of a bhava where Marana Graha is placed
2. Damage of a graha ruled by Marana sthana graha
3. Damage of a bhava, Marana graha is karaka for. It inludes naisarghik and other karakatvas damage
First type of damage
1. Bhava will not undergo destruction provided karaka is well placed. For example, if mangal is in 7th, a marriage luck will depend on Shukra. Pratyadhi Devata for Karaka is remedial measure, where Luck and God’s hand will save the marriage.
2. Lord of a bhava dispositing MKS graha has to be well placed. It guranatees good decisions and choices as per the bhava concerned. Use the rules for Kalpa Druma Yoga to see what will help against MKS graha. IF dispositor of MKS is well placed, health will not suffer. DIspositor of such dispositor will keep the mind well. Navamsa dispositor will bring the luck. Remedial measures for each grahas are Shiva mantra, Devi Mantra and Vishnu Mantra respectively.
Second type of damage
1. Bhavas ruled by MKS are dying. A person will make decisions under terrible pressure and circumstances related to those bhavas. THe bhava which is not attended by a graha by purusha and stree principle will suffer particularly.
2. Check the planets or aspects to those bhavas. Benefics like Budha and Guru will give a right approach and intellignent attitude which will help them out against MKS lord.
3. Karaka for those bhavas should be well placed to guard against of evil of MKS
Third type of damage:
1. Karaka is in MKS. This is the worst type of damage and indicates bad karma and terrible suffering on a count of houses MKS graha is karaka for.
2. Benefics in those bhavas will releive suffering due to a native intelligence.
3. Bhavesha well placed will indicate that a person will make good choices. However, this will not remove MKS due to a bad luck
The remedies:
1. If a day strong graha is in Marana Sthan, the birth during the day will lessen the evil effects of MKS graha. The same holds true for nightbirth and night strong grahas. Budha in MKS will be neutralized with a birth in morning/evening sandhi.
2.If a graha is in Marana sthana, and is conjoined the its dispositor or a karaka of a bhava where it is placed, the damage of the house is less
3. If a graha is in Marana sthana and is conjoined a karaka for a bhava ruled by it, the damage of a bhava it rules is less.
4. If a graha is in Marana sthana and is conjoined the ruler of the house in a natural zodiac, it can help a karaka.
5. If a graha is in Marana Karaka sthan and is exalted, a person will come out of a marana effects after impossible odds. The same holds good but to a lesser degree in case of multrikon and own signs. Some positions in divisional charts will also strongly counterpart MKS which will be explained during discussion classes.
6. If a graha is in MKS and is conjoined benefic graha, particularly Guru and Budha, a person will be able to overcome some evil effects due to good decisions.
7. If a graha is in MKS a certian position of planets in vara chakra will be able to neutralize its evil effects. The detailed explanation will be during discussion classes.
8. Grahas will be propitiated by propitiating, the aditya of a house, the devata of a graha: Surya- Shiva Mrityunjaya, Chandra-Gauri, Mangal-Shiva (Rudra), Budha (Vishnu), Guru ( Dakshinamurti), Shukra (Laksmi), Shani (Durga), Rahu and Ketu (Chandi and Vinayaka, or Guru mantras)
9.Marana sthana of a graha will cause a tatva dosha, while in a such case a panchanga should be examined. These principles will be explained in detail during discussion classes.
The remedial measures should be done as per the damage
Om Namah Shivaya
October 6, 2007 at 8:08 am |
Dear Zoran-ji,
Namaskar. a few points/questions:
1. Since natural karakatva of a graha is against what is asked from it when it is being placed in MKS positions, does it follow that there will be some discomfort when such grahas lord their own MKS positions ? E.g. Vrisabha lagna: Shukra owns 6th house. Lets say Shukra is not placed in 6th but placed somewhere else. Still Shukra’s own agenda (i.e. its own karakatva) has a conflict with Sani/Mangal who are karakas of the 6th.
2. Is the MKS concept from AL to be similarly interpreted ? How about MKS from arudas of specific houses and their Karakas ? E.g. Shukra 6th from A7, Surya 12-th from A9. Please write about the naunces of these aspects.
3. Rahu and Ketu form two poles constantly pulling the jataka to bhoga and tyaga margas. Why would MKS of Rahu automatically mean Ketu is in MKS ? It is because we constantly eat the fruits of our action and want to eat more, that we get entangled in Maaya. So shouldn’t Ketu’s MKS be in 11H ? Just a thought.
4. What is the significance of MKS in Divisional charts ?
Best wishes,
Sourav
October 7, 2007 at 2:33 pm |
Dear Sourav,
1. I don’t think so as per MKS effects. What you are saying is that Sambhanda between Bhavesha and Karaka should be examined, which is correct, however it has nothing to do with MKS effects.
2. THough not directly taught by Guruji, some research from AL is required. Chandra in 8th from Arudha Lagna definitely works, as well as Surya in 12th. Guru in 3rd house is definitely a sadhu yoga, however, it may ruin the finance. THe rules for Arudha should be applied along. From Arudha padas, good thinking, try it:))) Some other concepts on Karakas do work from Aduha padas, so give it a try..:)
3. Ketu in 11th is worst when coming to a forming a family-Kula, some form of destruction will be felt, however, it can alse reverse the Hara.. No Marana sthana there..
4. I will speak about it in detail later
Best wishes
Zoran
October 11, 2007 at 12:01 pm |
sir,
jupitor along with mars in seventh house.does it result in affecting relationships adversely including delaying marriage indefinitely,( for ex.,dob 29may 1975,tob 15hours 12 min., pob kanpur, u.p., india.
with regards
kkdave
October 12, 2007 at 12:52 am |
Dear K.K.Dave
It will affect your approach and attitude towards relationship. That means that you can delay the marriage yourself. In case the lord or karaka is afflicted or UL is afflicted, than some other factors can also delay the marriage.
Best wishes
Zoran
October 16, 2007 at 5:01 am |
hare rama krsna
namaskaram zoran,this is rakesh from ny,been going thru moon mks since 2002 and its with sani.am gemini lagna,its preety bad for the money and my health,just a monthago got my sri varuna mantra also getting little better but its rough,take care lord shiva bless all of us,namaste
rakesh vohra
November 10, 2007 at 4:28 am |
Om Namah Shivaya,
Dear Rakesh,
Shri Varuna Mantra will certainly help as per Kala and Dikchakra. You stated that 2 things you are suffering: health and finance>
For health, Lagna lord in your chart must be strong, mercury. while for finance, check the strength of Guru. Also, if Shukra is in kendra, you will come out safely.
Best wishes and good luck
Zoran
December 19, 2007 at 5:51 am |
DEAR
IF PLANET DO EVERY THING LIKE PEACE LUCK HAPPINESS.THEN WHAT ALLAH IS DOING .
I GOT DEPPRESSION SINCE 20 YEAR I GOT NO PEACE AND HAPPIENESS
WOULD PLS HELP ME BECOUSE OVER HERE IN PAKISTAN THERE IS NO GOOD ASTRLOGEST .
BIRTH PLACE (PAKISTAN) LAHORE DOB 15 OCT 1963 AT 0530 HRS AM
MY EMAIL IS imranm38@hotmail.com
rgds
imran
December 20, 2007 at 3:07 am |
Dear Imran,
It is stated in all vedic shastras that planets are like fingers of GOD, not GOD HIMSELF, just the instruments of distributing the results of our own action.
Your chart shows long Rahu dasha roughly from the age of 22 till the age of 40. Rahu is involved in many bad aspects such as Venus’ curse, or shocks in emotional life, health problems and bad luck. The birthtime can slightly change and modify the picture, however, this is the basic theme which does not change. I can advice Vedic remedy for your situation, however, I am not sure that I can give a proper remedy in the line of your own religion. In that case I would need some help.
Best wishes
Zoran
January 23, 2008 at 7:35 am |
Om Namah Shivaya
Dear Zoran-ji,
Namaskar,
Can you please guide me on shani in MKS with mangal because I am having that yoga. This is also Unmada yoga. I am facing lot of troubles in my life. Right now I am doing fasting on wednesday according to Kala-chakra (Teachings of Pt Sanjay Rathji).
My birth details are
15 June 1978
11:10 am
Jalgaon(Maharashtra-India)(21N01 75E39)
January 23, 2008 at 7:35 am |
Om Namah Shivaya
Dear Zoran-ji,
Namaskar,
Can you please guide me on shani in MKS with mangal because I am having that yoga. This is also Unmada yoga. I am facing lot of troubles in my life. Right now I am doing fasting on wednesday according to Kala-chakra (Teachings of Pt Sanjay Rathji).
My birth details are
15 June 1978
11:10 am
Jalgaon(Maharashtra-India)(21N01 75E39)
Thanks & Regards,
Pravin
February 27, 2008 at 8:06 am |
Dear Zoran,
1. Can MKS of a karaka wrt relevant bhava be considered:
e.g. Ju 3rd from 5th house (children, mantra etc),
Mo 8th from 4th house (mother)
Ma 7th from 4th house (property)
and likewise.
2. In rakesh’s cae (above), why Venus in kendra is being considered? Is it because it is 5th (from Mo – the mk graha) in vara chakra?
Many thanx,
SS
April 8, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
Dear Sir,
can you explain this further more, please?
“If a graha is in Marana Karaka sthan and is exalted, a person will come out of a marana effects after impossible odds.”
Thank you
April 28, 2008 at 1:44 pm |
Om Mahalakshmyai Namaha,
I am running 5 month of Shukra maha dasha now and after Ketu mahadash i feel some relief but things are still not going well.I chant every day Shukra ,Vishnu ,Lakshmi mantras more than 9 months ,still no big improvement.If you can give me advice which is more effective i would be grateful. 24.11.1975, 5.51(morning) Slovenia(Slovenj Gradec)46N31,15E06
TZ:1. All the best!
August 5, 2008 at 1:41 am |
Hare Rama Krishna
Dear Zoran,
PLease give some article on Mrityubhag points.Such info is hard to find.
thanks
all the best Lakshmi
September 2, 2008 at 2:32 pm |
my sis born on june 101980 in bangalore at 1.45am…i hv to confirm whether she is manglik…..she is nt interested in marriage…….guru,satrun,mangal placed in 6th place frm meena ascendant….sukra and budha is creating any prblems in her marriage life?plz suggest me
January 8, 2009 at 4:51 pm |
Hello Zoran,
I’m not your student (yet
), but I’ll ask you these questions anyway.
1. If a planet that is in marana sthana is exchanged with another planet, does this help? Does it help to the bhava where the marana planet is placed, the dispositor, or the bhava that marana planet is karaka for.
Is it similar to remedy 2? (conjoins its dispositor?)
2. “Budha is in Marana sthan for a bhava where mituna rashi is placed.”
What does this mean? that budha is in marana sthan only if it is in 4th and at the same time in mituna rashi?
3.”In 7th bhava, budha is marana stan for kanya rashi,” What does this mean?
That budha is in marana sthan only if it is in the 7th and in the kanya rashi at the same time?
Is budha the only planet that depends on the rashi placement as well (as far as marana sthan position is concerned)?
Best regards,
Gordana